Welcome to eClass 11:

How to get a flying job…


Here we go..


PART 1: Look Inside the Aviation Industry.

Every successful Commercial Airline Pilot has a story. 

A story of their success.  Most will love to tell their story but you have to ask.


Right now you are writing your own.

Gaining knowledge in the different ways pilots made it will help you gain an understanding of the process.  Keep asking until you find out what they might have done differently – this is where the secrets are.

I was lucky enough to be told what not to do by my mentor – my father who was an airline pilot. Yep – I was an airline brat! (So was Craig!)

3 career-busting no-no’s…

  1. Don’t be a smart arse (excuse the language!).
  2. Don’t mess around and be unprofessional with an aeroplane – it WILL get noticed.
  3. Don’t stop striving for the next level.

With these 3 rules it gives you a chance to get into the industry hear about the process and movement without stuffing up your first impression.



You only get to make your first impression once and it will probably stick so be aware.


Remember the Pilot Police?

What we learnt about the aviation industry is that it is close knit and the wrong information can hold you back.

Like we said earlier that every pilot will tell you their story and that is good, but what will give you the edge is if you can gather the information and work out what is useful to you.

Most pilots are well meaning but remember that not everyone makes it.

Also they could well be your competition, they may not tell you everything if it meant you got an advantage over them.


A general rule that we have noticed is that if someone has to TELL you how good that they are – they probably aren’t. 


We have found that a pilot’s skill should be obvious.  In an airline, a good Check and Training pilot will see this so don’t tell him/her how good you are as you will probably just annoy them.

Don’t fret though we have a solution! 

How to make a good first impression…

  • Listen and ask questions and then sit back and think about what is useful and practical information.
  • Always understand who your audience is – you could be talking to the boss!
  • Respect your position
  • Earn Respect don’t try to demand it – big chance of back firing
  • Get a Pilot Mentor – it’s like having someone to watch your back

Find a mentor that you can trust. 


Check2blue2 Who is not your competitor and

Check2blue2 Who has made it that can give you the big picture.

Check2blue2 Who can admit when they made mistakes

Check2blue2 Who has avoided the 3 no-no’s

We had no idea the impact we had on James’ career.  He said there were times he wanted to give up…



This is how you should use our monthly member webinars.


You have this support right now.

If you like the sound of one on one help like James had – find out more at the webinar.


PART 2: Getting Yourself Known (for the RIGHT reasons!).


Not only put yourself out there but make sure you are known for the right reasons.

Rarely do pilots get jobs over the phone. 

Look at it from a Chief Pilots perspective, if they employ you over the phone and you get there and aren’t what you seemed he/she could get stuck with you!

Drop in to any aviation company that will let you in!  It shows initiative and drive. 

Never Never Never Give up 





2 reasons why it’s good that MAKING IT in aviation can be challenging…

1. If it was easy, everyone would/could be doing it

2. If it was easy, it would be boring




When I finished flying training and started looking for my first job I drove around the whole state dropping in.  It wasn’t all pretty – I got a lot of ‘no we are not hiring at the moment’ but soldiered on.

I was driving around with Craig actually and got to the last place before heading home and I had had enough.

I sat in the car outside the office and thought that there was never going to be a job for me.  Craig ‘politely’ suggested that I stop feeling sorry for myself and just go in and put myself out there, so I did.  I went in and went through the spiel about my experience and if there was any vacancies expecting the usual knock back and to my pleasant surprise one of the pilots had just resigned the day before!

To think I had nearly given up.  The right advice from the right person at the right time is what it’s all about.  That’s what a mentor can do. 

The do’s of getting yourself known…

Check2blue2 Visit potential employers in person

Check2blue2 Build a file of applications to airlines/operators (as soon as you have a CPL)

Check2blue2 Follow up applications/visits with phone calls (be mindful of how often so as not to annoy)

Check2blue2 Act Professional even from the start

Check2blue2 Always strive for a good reputation

Check2blue2 Be humble – remember you never know who’s listening

Check2blue2 Keep a good perspective


The don’ts of getting yourself known…

xblue2 Don’t TELL everyone how good you are – it should be obvious

xblue2 Don’t break the rules – even if you think no-one’s watching

xblue2 Get the job done

xblue2 Respect experience (or as I like to say respect the ‘grey hair!’)

xblue2 Don’t cover up mistakes – learn from them


I kept sending in resumes as soon as I achieved a new aircraft endorsement or at least every 6 months as I gained more experience.  I am sure that my files were huge by the time I’ve experienced enough for an interview!

Remember the old saying that the squeaky wheel gets fixed.  Be the squeaky wheel.

These days some airlines use online applications and may not let you apply until you have the minimum required flying hours but don’t let this deter you. Keep trying.  Also, some airlines use contract recruitment companies to recruit and employ pilots. Keep yourself known as much as possible with these agencies

PART 3: How to get a flying job.

The Interview Process…

The interview process in any industry can be challenging.  I have found that anything that seems at first challenging and difficult can be made easier if it is simplified into its core parts.



5 elements to a Successful Pilot Interview :

1. Preparation

2. Research

3. Mindset

4. Appearance

5. Conduct


My advice for interview success is…

  • Be yourself
  • Trust Yourself
  • Be Genuine in your answers
  • Let your ability and experience be obvious and match what is in your logbook
  • Practise some answers as a way to relax yourself in the interview
  • Think about some experiences that demonstrate how you work as a pilot


Handy Tip – Consider a mentor to help guide you from the start and not only will this increase your chances of success but you will have someone to celebrate with!  You can even them to come and practise in a simulator with you.  Remember this may be your only chance.

For example, if you were going for an interview with a particular airline, talk firstly to someone who has recently had an interview and made it in.  Someone that missed out could be a little resentful and not necessarily happily give you the best info.

Secondly, talk to someone who has been in the airline for a while.  If you have avoided the 3 no-no’s above, you will be able to find a connection somewhere in the 3 degrees of separation that can give you the insider story.



Something for later – I have an exclusive Gold Wings Mentoring Program where I have tackled each of these to help you simplify the process in our ‘Recruitment Accelerator Compendium’, ‘Interviews with Aviation Experts, Pioneers and Pilot Recruitment Insiders’. 

I have also bundled together a ‘Professional Pilot’s Resume Template’ and some videos in a ‘Flight Simulator’ and ‘How to present and Conduct yourself at a Pilot Interview’.



PART 4: Questions for You.

  1. What are the 3 Career-Busting no-no’s? 
  2. List some of the benefits of having a pilot mentor.
  3. Create a copy of the do’s and don’ts of getting yourself known and keep it somewhere you will see it.
  4. What are the key elements of a Successful Interview?
  5. Did you know that you can ask questions and get support from pilot mentors? That’s what it’s all about.

Next week’s preview…’Audio Interview Series – Part 1 Captain Naomi Radke…..’

Sometimes listening to a REAL person revealing their experience whether good or bad could be all you need to get started!

Monthly Webinar is a great place to get support

Craig live on the webinar!


 Congratulations on completing this Eclass.  Check out below the Eclass calendar to see what’s in store!

If you have any questions or comments please send them to info@ouraviationsecrets.com

To Your Flying Success!


Captain Craig Baker

Airline Pilot and Professional Pilot Mentor

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